Less of a Gamer

8 Responses

  1. Alexander B. says:

    I’m in the group that feels if ya play a game your a gamer. No matter what kind of game or how long. I always love to hear that people play games from Facebook games to consoles games. :)

    • alexlayne says:

      Indeed! I just don’t always see the point of putting up that exclusionary fence line. I want all people to enjoy games like I do. Sure, it’s a unique part of how I see myself, but still, someone playing soltaire calling themselves a gamer doesn’t take away from that.

  2. Jordan H says:

    I think the bigger question is why do male gamers feel the need to either undermine or ridicule the title of girl gamer. Why care so much?

    I think a lot of it has to do with how OTHER dumb guy gamers react when women play with them. This kind of misogyny doesn’t occur in a vacuum, after all. Condescending jokes, being a “white knight”, , plain ole’ perv talk – these behaviors all work in unison with rejecting the idea of girl gamers.

    • alexlayne says:

      Agreed. This need to reject/harass/etc any woman that comes into the gaming space is indicative of much larger problems in the gaming community and industry. None of it is in a vacuum, nor is it the work of just a few adolescent jerks. It’s pervasive, and it’s a huge problem.

  3. Alisha Karabinus says:

    I think there’s something worth exploring on the other side of this, too: the question of why so many women who play games don’t label themselves gamers. We talked about this a little on the last podcast — all those people (often women) who are playing different kinds of games who don’t think of themselves as gamers. There’s something strange about the word that makes some people want to claim it and restrict others from it, while others reject it and refuse to claim it when it so clearly fits.

    • alexlayne says:

      Absolutely. I think it’s a somewhat different issue, but definitely entwined. In many, many people’s minds, gamer means “X” (fill in the blank, usually young, boy, antisocial, etc), and so there is a fear that comes with associating themselves with it. For many women, this is a reaction to them seeing gamer as a negative thing; for others who find themselves on the inside, this reaction stems from a desire to keep that label pure, since they identify with it so strongly. This pops up a lot when you see gamers try to defend the label by saying that sexism and racism and homophobia is part of what it means to be a gamer. If that is your view, then I can see how you wouldn’t want to be associated with it (royal you, not you Alisha).

      • Alisha Karabinus says:

        Agreed re: different but connected. Because the people you write about in your original post have their own definitions of what makes a gamer that some of us can never manage to fulfill, while the people I mention here have other definitions. It leads me back to a question I keep asking: why is gaming so fraught? It’s really a very simple thing.

  4. dr. b. says:

    I am on the same page with y’all here. I just wanted to chime in to say what irritates me more than what do yo play is the “Which consoles do you own?” question because it implies one that there is a console hierarchy and two that if you don’t play on a console that you aren’t a gamer (i.e. mobile phone gamers aren’t gamers). More than anything I loe the looks on their faces when I say “about all of them at last count there were over 30. That usually shuts them up pretty well.